The Blue Jays were asking for Clint Fraizer in a Stroman to the Yankees deal

Marcus Stroman was traded to New York prior to the trade deadline. That wasn’t a surprise. It was the team in New York that happened to be what shocked everyone.

It had been long-rumoured that the Yankees were looking to acquire the native New Yorker to help add quality depth to a starting rotation that had been enigmatic. It was assumed that Stroman, a guy unafraid of the big lights in New York City and an ability to keep the ball on the ground, would thrive as a Yankee. But, prior to the trade deadline, it was the Mets who came out of left field and acquired Stroman.
So, what happened? Why didn’t Stroman end up a Yankee like as all assumed he would? Well, according to Wallace Matthews of Yahoo! Sports, Brian Cashman didn’t believe that Stroman could be a major difference-maker on the team and, thus, wouldn’t meet Toronto’s demands.
Plopped in the middle of the article in a section titled “Is 2019 Cashman’s masterpiece?” is this quick but incredibly interesting tidbit about the Yankees pursuit of Stroman at the trade deadline.

And this year, when the Blue Jays were demanding Frazier be …

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Author: Cam Lewis / Blue Jays Nation

Blue Jays are prisoners of the moment, but only for now

In discussing Marcus Stroman’s trade value with Shi Davidi and Ben Nicholson-Smith on a recent episode of Sportsnet’s At the Letters podcast, writer and insider Arden Zwelling perfectly summed up the difficulty and complexity of evaluating Stroman-like trades.
“In terms of sports commentary and fandom, we’re such prisoners to the moment,” Zwelling remarked. “You have to make these sweeping assessments of things in the moment, but we won’t know when Marcus Stroman is traded, whether or not it was a good trade or not.”
Zwelling’s thought process, while simple and logical at its core, represents what probably should be the prevailing opinion among Blue Jays fans regarding the trade of Marcus Stroman — it’s too early to evaluate the trade.
In case you missed it, the Blue Jays, now in full-sell mode ahead of Wednesday’s trade deadline, traded starter Marcus Stroman to the New York Mets in exchange for two pitching prospects, Anthony Kay, who has since been assigned to Triple-A Buffalo, and Simeon Woods-Richardson, who’ll head to High-A Dunedin.
Many commenting on the trade immediately slagged on the return the Blue Jays were able to net for Stroman, who, per many insiders, …

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Author: Hayden Godfrey / Blue Jays Nation

Daily Duce: The post-Stroman trade reaction edition

Daily?????!!!!!
We all knew Marcus Stroman was going to be traded, but this isn’t exactly how we expected it to go down. The Jays pulled the trigger on a deal with, out of left field, the Mets, a few days prior to the trade deadline, resulting in some pretty mixed reviews on the return. There’s a lot being said about this very confusing deal and I’ll do my best to synthesize the interesting and important information.

First and foremost, there’s Marcus Stroman’s reaction to the trade, which wasn’t overly shocking. There was reportedly a loud commotion in the clubhouse between Stroman and Blue Jays coaches and executives after the ace found out he had been dealt to the Mets.
It seems that Stroman’s frustration had to do with being traded to the Mets rather than to a contending team, like his hometown Yankees, which had been his rumoured destination for weeks. Stroman’s father even chimed in to admit he was a little disappointed with the result…
“He was kind of psyched, maybe hoping to go there. I’m not going to tell you that he wasn’t,” the elder Stroman said. “If …

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Author: Cam Lewis / Blue Jays Nation

Stroman: “I’ve come to terms with it and I’m ready to dominate”

Always wearing his heart on his sleeve, starter Marcus Stroman had some words for fans, media and the front office during a scrum after his fantastic start Wednesday night.
The 28-year-old pitcher was clearly emotional after what could be his last start as a member of the Toronto Blue Jays and will most likely be his last start at Rogers Centre.
“This start could be my last outing here” said Stroman. “I’ve always been emotional, I feel like I’ve had a pretty good tenure as a Blue Jay, I feel like I’ve pitched pretty well in the best division in baseball.”
While rumours swirl on what team might be acquiring Stroman, he might in fact stay within the division and be on the Yankees roster as the July 31 trading deadline passes.
It almost feels like a forgone conclusion that he won’t be in Toronto once that deadline passes and any talk of a possible extension has been smothered.
“There’s been no willingness from the front office to sign me, so I’ve just come to terms with it and I’m ready to dominate, wherever that may be,” said Stroman.
What was assumed to be …

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Author: Thomas Williams / Blue Jays Nation

Gauging Ken Giles’ trade value compared to deals from the past

Next to Marcus Stroman, Ken Giles is the most valuable trade chip the Blue Jays have (whom they’re willing to part with, at least). Giles has been a revelation in a Blue Jays uniform ever since they acquired the fireballer closer at last year’s trade deadline.
Removed from the pressure cooker environment in Houston, Giles has thrived in the low-pressure environment in Toronto and rehabilitated his image to the point where he’s no longer viewed as “damaged goods” to prospective teams.
For the second consecutive year, it’s very likely that Giles will be on the move and it’s difficult to imagine him not with another team come July 31st. He’s arguably the most attractive relief arm on the trade market and the Blue Jays should expect a decent return for the 28-year-old.
This year, Giles has struck out 47 batters, walked eight, has four earned runs to his name and owns a sparkling 1.33 ERA in 27 appearances. If a contending team needs a power arm for the back-end of their bullpen, Giles should be their number one target. He isn’t a straight-up rental and he’s been one of baseball’s best relievers dating back …

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Author: Ian Hunter / Blue Jays Nation

Is something brewing with Marcus Stroman?

Marcus Stroman had a difficult start for the Blue Jays today, going just four innings while scattering three runs on three hits and four walks. None of the runs were earned as the Jays’ defence behind Stroman let him down, but something seemed off about the usually-energetic starter.

Look, I usually don’t dive into these completely random rumours, but the timing here seems really odd. Stroman, who’s usually bouncing around the mound with a bunch of energy, was strangely quiet and solemn out there today. Maybe he’s sick or had something else going on (Hazel Mae reported on the broadcast that he was just feeling off) or maybe there’s something bigger brewing that he knows about.

I have a source the Padres are trading for Stroman. Deal not official yet.
— eric (@zayewop) April 14, 2019

Again, let’s take this with a massive grain of salt given it’s just some random 500-follower account on Twitter. Like I said, though, something seemed really off today, so I guess it’s something worth thinking about.
Stroman trade rumours have been going on for months now. There was a lot of talk about the Jays listening to trade offers in …

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Author: Cam Lewis / Blue Jays Nation

Lourdes Gurriel was pulled from the game after making an ugly throwing error in today’s loss to Tampa Bay

That was a weird one, to the say the least. Neither Marcus Stroman or Charlie Morton made it beyond five innings but the Rays kicked the door down in the eighth inning and cruised to an 8-4 win.

Things worth mentioning…
As the title suggests, the most interesting development in today’s game was Lourdes Gurriel making a terrible throwing error at second base (his second game in a row with a throwing error) and subsequently getting pulled from the game the following inning. I don’t think Charlie Montoyo removed Gurriel from the game as a punishment. You could see Gurriel wearing the frustration after he made that error. His body language showed a player with lost confidence. I imagine the play here was to get him out of the game before he had a chance to dig himself further into the hole he’s in. You have to wonder if Gurriel could use some time at Triple-A Buffalo to regain confidence, especially given the Jays need to remove someone from the 25-man roster to make room for Vlad Jr. eventually.
That error by Gurriel resulted in Marcus Stroman having to throw 15 more pitches in the third inning, which …

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Author: Cam Lewis / Blue Jays Nation